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| 1. Apologies. Many apologies for this eNewsletter being rather 'late', but due to Ang having been away for all of
early September (on a florist's course in Lincolnshire!) and my taking advantage of her absence to
make a great mess in the house (tidying files, cutting wood, moving furniture, and building a 'studio'
for Ang's floral arrangements etc) I didn't get a chance to finalise this 'offering'.
Since Ang's return home, and in between 'baby-sitting' and other activities, I'd been able to greatly
increase the information in the eNewsletter, although due to its 'size' I've decided to send it in two
parts! (thought that the two parts would download quicker for you). so although this eNewsletter may
be rather late, it certainly has a lot more content. Hopefully the wait will have been worth it (and by the
way, Ang is really thrilled with her 'studio').
Besides the above apology, I would like to say that within the 'Welcome' item in my last eNewsletter
(No.24), I wrote about Zofia Kobylinska who lives in St Clears, West Wales, UK. Unfortunately, I had
my villages mixed up, and rather than living in St.Clears, Zofia actually lives in St.Dogmaels. I do
therefore apologise to Zofia for any upset caused.
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| 2. Welcome Whilst in the past, this section has contained the names of those who have contacted me since the
last eNewsletter, and who have either requested a copy of the monthly issue, or who have a
connection (direct or indirect) with the Powditch family, I have tended to only include basic information
re the latter.
From this issue however, I am hoping to include a little more information about those being
welcomed, as it will be of interest to all readers, and also in the hope that even just some of which is
printed, may trigger family memories, and lead to more individual family reunions.
I therefore welcome to this edition of the eNewsletters, the following, who have contacted me since
the last issue;-
a. Terry Kirkman. from Wimborne, Dorset, UK, who emailed me to say that
"I have only just discovered your website and what an extensive site it is. On browsing the
many interesting aspects covered on the site I think I may have an answer to the question
raised under the heading "Strays". It concerns the marriage of Mary E(lizabeth) Powditch
in India to my great grandfather William Henry Kelly. The date of the marriage is 11th Feb.
1860 at Christ Church, Bankipor, near Patna, India. William Henry Kelly was a steward to
the Maharajah of Cooch Bihar. I learnt from my grandfather [William Herbert, who was the
eldest of five sons all born in India] that on a return to England in the 1870's their mother
died on board ship - and possibly was buried at sea - and the boys were subsequently put
into a private school in Kings Lynn. They all appear on the 1881 census at 6, Tower Street
with the exception of my grandfather who at the age of 18 had presumably moved out into
the big wide world. I am still searching for more information about Mary Elizabeth; her birth,
presumably in Norfolk? , what was she doing in India? I hope your website may prove useful.
At the moment I am trying to find out more details of Mary Eliza(beth) Powditch and the
connection to Norfolk. I guess she was born around 1840 but what was she doing in India?
As well as this I'm trying to trace, with limited success grandfather's brothers. Unfortunately
Kelly is a much more common name than Powditch."
Terry and I are already in contact with each other re the above, and there is a really exciting
development re his forbears, for thanks to a letter written by Samuel Powditch to his son, James
Race Powditch in Adelaide, in the 1870s (the letter is owned by Pat and Peter Powditch, Adelaide,
although a copy appears in the book version of "Peerless Powditch's; Vol 3.) and also thanks to
recent research by both Terry and myself, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to state (with
99.99% accuracy) that Mary E(lizabeth) Powditch was the older sister of Joseph Samuel Powditch
(bo.1838, Wells; d.1873, India - no descendants); James Race Powditch (bo. 1840 Wells; d.1905,
Adelaide, Australia - lots of descendants, all living in and around Adelaide); Sarah Eliza Powditch
(bo.1842 Wells, d.1871, Kings Lynn); Alice Powditch (bo.1844 Wells, married John Earl, 1872 at
Hackney, no further details); John Robert Powditch (bo. 1846 Wells; d.1927, Tottenham, London -
descendants in UK, US, and Canada); William Powditch (bo.1849 Wells; d.1941, Derby - lots of
descendants in Derbyshire and Lincolnshire).
b. Claire Morgan. from the UK.
Claire is a descendant of Jemima Stephens of Cornwall, whose father was brother to the
father of Mary Stephens who was born c1844 in East Looe, Cornwall. (hope that you
followed that OK?!!) Mary, who had "10 brothers and sisters: William (b.1846), Albert (b.1847),
Melinda (b.1849), James (b.1851), Caroline (b.1853), Julia (b.1855), Richard (b.1857),
Frederick (b.1862), Walter E (b.1864) and Minnie R (b.1866)", was (as far as Claire knows)
"the eldest child of William Raskely Stephens (b.1822 East Looe) and Caroline Landery."
In 1867, in the Registration District of Poplar, London, Mary Stephens married Wells Kendle/Kindle
Powditch, and they had 3 children, including Wells Joseph Alonzo Ferdinand Powditch who,
with most of his descendants, came to represent the Channel Islands branch of the Powditch family.
Between Claire and myself, I hope that we will be able to increase on the knowledge of Mary
Stephens and her family, especially as I understand (from another source) that some members of
the Stephens family were also employed by Trinity House as Lighthouse keepers etc.
c. Michael Canton, from South Petherton in Somerset UK.
Michael contacted me having noted that there were marriages between Powditch's and Chipperfields
in the hope that I (or one of the Chipperfield family members) might know something of an
"Agnes Chipperfield [who was Michael's maternal grandmother]. She was born in Cockloft,
Higham, Kent on 17.5.1891. Her father was William Henry Chipperfield and her mother
Elizabeth. She had 3 brothers called Robert (Bob), Nelson and another unknown. She is
thought to be a relation of the 1930's Australian cricket player A G Chipperfield."
Regrettably I didn't, although I have put him in contact with Pamela Wainman (see next item). If any
other family members are able to help, I certainly will pass all info' on to Michael.
d. Pamela Wainman, from Harwich, Essex, UK.
Although I gave a welcome to Pamela in the Jan/Feb 2005 eNewsletter (you may remember that she
has a family connection with the Chipperfield family, some members of whom married
POWDITCHs, details of which are viewable on pages 112-113 of
Pamela's mother Euphemia Caroline Chipperfield, was the sixth, and last child of James
Chipperfield and Catherine Mannakee (usually known as Kate) Of the former's brothers,
James Alfred Chipperfield b. 24th November, 1897 in Mile End (who was the second child,
of six), married Sarah Jane Powditch, whilst his brother, Alfred George Chipperfield
b. 24 June 1903 in Stepney (who was the fourth child of six), married Mary Powditch.
Pamela is hoping to renew contact with all of her cousins, both those who remember her, as
well as some she has yet to meet, especially as she has so many good memories to catch up
with.
e. (Ivy) Pat Hyde, from the UK.
Pat's parents' were John Frederick Powditch, and Ivy (nee Newitt), and JFP was one of
the 14 children of Robert John Howard Powditch and Emma (nee Harris). In similar vein
to Michael Canton and Pamela Wainman above, Pat has Chipperfield connections, via two of
her Powditch Aunts (her father's sisters) having married into the Chipperfields. Of more
interest to me however is the fact that although I had previously known that a Fred Powditch
had married Ivy ... [since been advised that her maiden surname had been Newitt], and that
they had had 2 daughters (Ivy and Marion), no-one seemed able to provide any further details
as to where the family now lived etc. I am therefore really thrilled that Pat and I are now in
contact, moreso now that we have been able to share some family details, and I to be able to
learn so much more about Pat's father and grandfather.
f. Albert Browne, from the UK.
Within Albert's family ancestry is an Edna Jewson who in 1936 married William John
Powditch, the event being Registered in the District of Barnet. (William's birth was
Registered in early 1906, in the District of Edmonton). Edna was the daughter of Mr. Jewson
(no further details known at present) and Hannah Goodge (who had been born c1886 at
Littleport, Isle of Ely, Cambs, and it is believed that she died before 1986). In turn (according to
information provided by Martin Edwards, another researcher), Hannah Goodge's parents
had been Henry Goodge and Amelia Jane(nee Bowles) Returning to William John Powditch,
about 1920, his father - Lionel William Powditch - was living in the Tottenham, London,
area, although during his lifetime, he had worked in the British Embassy, at Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil. On 3 September 1963, LWP died, in Tottenham, Middlesex, and on 28 October 1963,
Letters of Administration (of his estate) were Granted. (Details were; Powditch, Lionel
William, of 2 Argyle Road, Tottenham, Middlesex, died 3 September 1963. Administration,
London, 28 October, to William John Powditch, paint Manufacturer's clerk, and Marjorie
Elizabeth Barrow, (wife of Frederick Robert Barrow). Source: Somerset House
Administrations for 1963.
William John Powditch died on 6 December 1980, at 10 Honeysuckle Close, Lowestoft,
Suffolk. On 29 January 1979, nearly 2 years before his death, he had made his own last Will,
for which, Probate was granted in 1981. From the contents of his Will, which made no mention
of his wife, Edna, nor of any children of either of them, she must have predeceased WJP.
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| 3. 'Stop Press' On 5 September, I added a new (different) home page to the website, just to see whether it would be
easier to use than the previous version.
In order to keep my options open, both the old and new versions of that page are available on line,
and I would be most grateful for you to have a look at both, and let me know which of the versions
you prefer and/or find easier to use. The URL's for the sites are as follows;
 'Old'-style homepage: www.powditch.plus.com/index.htm 'New'-style homepage: www.powditch.plus.com/index.html All links from both the old- and new- styled homepages work exactly as before, although should you
start from the new-style homepage and go to another page, should you then click on the 'home' link,
you will be taken to the old-style homepage.
Your comments (good, bad and indifferent!) re the new-style page will be most welcome, as I need
feedback as to which style you would prefer me to use. Thank you.
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| 4. Updated Information Carrying on from last month's (No.24) eNewsletter under the topic of 'Welcome', Zofia Kobylinska has
advised me that although she hasn't had much luck yet re her South American ancestors, her
g-grandfather (William Reginald Corfield) had a connection with ‘Buffalo Bill’ - they being friends -
and that BB had stayed at her g-grandfather's house in Chepstow (South Wales) when BB brought his
Wild West show to Britain.
Although not having any known link to the Powditch family, I thought that you might be interested to
read the following, which is part of an http://awt.ancestry.com/ page, especially as it highlights that
in everyone's family, there is usually something to interest, or excite, others;
"Colonel Cody (Buffalo Bill) presented a walking stick to Captain William Reginald Corfield,
an adventurer and entrepreneur who lived in Saint Lawrence House, Chepstow, until 1912.
The pair had been partners in a mining company in Wyoming and after Colonel Cody
founded his Wild West Show, Buffalo Bill, Captain Corfield was responsible for attracting the
show to Britain. It is said that members of the touring company stayed at Saint Lawrence
House. One member of the company that stayed there permanently was a horse ridden by
Buffalo Bill (and was also ridden by the late President McKinley on the morning of his
assassination). The horse performed tricks and danced, and it is said that he made a
special public appearance in the town during Chepstow street pageant in 1905. (Source and
Copyright 2004 Chepstow Museum)"
Besides the above, Zofia has found that two of her g-uncles actually lived for a time in Cody, the town
BB founded in Wyoming and she has a record of a trip her g-grandfather made to the US with BB.
She has also found that her g-grandfather had at least one shipping co. including the 'Black Sea and
Eastern Shipping Co' which was voluntarily liquidated in 1915.
Hopefully the above might ring a bell with someone, either re the Buffalo Bill connection or with
(Captain) William Reginald Corfield's having been in Chile (see my eNewsletter No.24 for further/full
details of him and his family)
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| 5. Statistics Having highlighted some statistics over the past couple of months (relating to 'queries', and to
'keywords') I thought that you might be interested to see the monthly statistics which are provided to
me by my ISP.
Whilst the charts shown below include figures for the whole of the www.powditch.plus.com/
website for all months of 2005 up to the end of August 2005, I haven't included any data here for the
current month as I usually retrieve those figures from my ISP once the current month has finished.
As many website owners quote the number of Hits their sites receive, rather than the number of
Visitors, their figures tend to show a large number (of hits). However, as you may be aware, a 'hit' is
when a word, or phrase (or sometimes a picture) on the website is recognised by a Search Engine,
and included within their search parameters. Indeed, next time you use Google, or any of the other
search engines, and after you've entered the subject (words) of what you're seeking and pressed
'Search', have a look on the bar below the search-box, for here will be revealed not only those
words you are seeking, but alongside them will be the number of hits (or occurrences) for those
words.
Thus, if the words 'nottingham births deaths' appear anywhere on my website, and you enter the latter
in the Search box on Google, somewhere on one of the sitepages revealed by Google's search of
the www, will appear at least one of my webpages.
Despite other webmasters' usage of figures, I on the other hand tend to quote the number of Visitors
(rather than 'hits') to the Powditch website, principally because a Visitor has come to the website
specifically to look at a Powditch (or connected-family) subject. In this way it is easier to judge the
efficiency of the website, as well as to understand whether the range of topics and subject matter are
'attractive' enough not only for Visitors to come to the website in the first place, but also to discover
the number of pages viewed at each visit (currently an average of just under 7 pages per visit to the
site).
With 60,307 Visitors having viewed the Powditch website since it first went live on 16 Jan 2003, I c
an only thank you, your families and all who have an interest in Powditch (and associated families')
history, for having greatly helped to make the site the success that it has been over the past
32 months, and therefore what it is today.
Earlier figures (for the whole of the 16 January 2003 up to August 2005 period, can be viewed at
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| 6. Feedback re 'Browsealoud' Did you have a chance to look at or try out the 'Browsealoud' software solution which had been
applied to the whole of the Powditch website? As I mentioned last month, 'Browsealoud' is a
software solution which speech enables website content, and is designed to aid with accessibility of
the website.
Although I was advised by 'Browsealoud' that the Powditch website would only be speech enabled for
a trial period of 15 days, I have noticed that on my own computer (having downloaded the applicable
software), I still have the 'Browsealoud' function fully working.
Whilst I haven't had any feedback re your usefulness (or not) etc for this software solution, I feel that I
must give you my own observations on the software's function.
As a person who has an eyesight disability (have only one seeing eye), I am still able to read (only
with glasses), and therefore am able to read typewritten documents etc (on internet pages) at my
own pace.
Whilst viewing 'Browsealoud'-enabled pages (whether of my own or of other websites) provided me
with a spoken version of same, and although it is possible to alter the speed of the spoken words,
as well as the volume, intonation etc, I found that the 'problems' for me - as someone who still has the
ability to see - were many, and included such things as not being able to easily re-read sections or
sentences (without resetting the cursor location); long pauses between lines on a page, thus
disjointing sentences; the reading out of not only punctuation marks, but in a situation (often used in
authored works) where either a sentence begins with a series of full-stops (......) or ends as such, the
'Browsealoud' function would state out loud (for every full-stop typed, 'full-stop- full-stop full-stop' and
so on! (rather disconcerting even if good for editing works for being read over the internet!)
There were other 'problems' I encountered, but for me, those were the worst. On the other hand, for
any person who does have an eye-sight problem, and who isn't able to read web-pages, either with
or without glasses, 'Browsealoud' is probably an excellent tool to use, and certainly will open the
world to many who are currently deprived.
As to whether 'Browsealoud' will help anyone who is fully blind, this is a matter of conjecture, for in
order for the software to work properly, the cursor has to be located in the correct location on the
typewritten page, and I would have assumed that unless the software stated where the cursor was
located, the 'listener' would not know whether the words being read out, were from the top, middle
or bottom of the page (unless, that is, someone else was present)
Anyway, those are my personal views, which I will be presenting to Oliver McVeigh, the Business
Development Manager, at Texthelp Systems Ltd, who produce the 'Browsealoud' software.
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| 7. A 'warning' re 'impostors'. Although many emails are sent to me stating that the sender is a Powditch, or of Powditch descent,
the information contained in their email(s) is usually quite 'involved', detailing how and where the
connection exists, and for such emails and senders, I am extremely grateful.
Other times however, I also receive emails where the sender is not of Powditch descent, but who -
due to the amount of information on the website - has a connection with a village, another (related)
surname, a specific Church or occupation, whereby (through making contact with me) the sender
hopes that I may be able to provide an answer or guidance. Again, for all such emails and senders,
I am always pleased to help.
On other occasions I receive emails from people who claim to have a Powditch connection, but who
(through either my knowledge of the majority of the family, or due to other reasons) do not provide
sufficient grounds for me to answer their queries, or for me to believe that they have a genuine
connection. In these instances I usually reply with lots of questions in the hope that I might be the best
to judge the authenticity of the sender, especially as I usually find that such enquirers mostly fall by the
wayside.
During August however, I became more aware that there appear to be some 'silly' (some say 'sick')
people out there in internet-space who are not all that they purport to be!
On 20 August, when I was replying to Andrew Powditch (Nottingham), I advised in my email to him
that;-
"Only this morning I received an enquiry from a Carlos Powditch living in Santiago, who
wishes to know more about his family - even if I have had to reply asking for details re his
parents' and grandparents' names (I don't appear to have any Powditchs in Chile with a
first name of Carlos, although I do have a couple of Charles', but then, I'm already in
contact with them, so I'm hoping to discover a lot more about the person who's contacted
me, especially as to which branch of the family he's a descendant!) Hopefully by the time
the next eNewsletter comes out, I'll have more info to report."
- for what I had received as an enquiry, had been;-
FirstName: CARLOS
LastName: POWDITCH
Your Email Address: carlos powditch @ mi.cl (I have spaced out all letters etc in order that the email
address is not reproduced here)
City: SANTIAGO
Country: CHILE
Comments: I WANT TO KNOW MORE OF THE FAMILY
On the basis that I do check and double check all incoming messages for their 'genuiness', I must
admit that I was really taken aback when what appeared to be a genuine enquirer (apart from my
concerns voiced to Andrew in my email to him; see above) my reply to the emailer was bounced
back to me (and after trying all possible email variations, it still kept bouncing back).
Whilst this, in one sense, is a worrying development in email contact, by the same token I do want to
absolutely reassure all of my readers and everyone whose information is either on the Powditch
website, or contained within the Powditch archive, that I do (and will continue to) abide by everything
stated on the www.powditch.plus.com/homepages/copyright_details.htm page, as well as with
the 'Reminder' on the bottom of both the www.powditch.plus.com/ and
Needless to say, that in accordance with my own 'constraints', I am extremely grateful that I hadn't
disclosed any information in my reply to the bogus emailer, and that furthermore, I had only asked
questions of him. Isn't it such a pity though that we all have to be on guard against such 'tricksters'?
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| 8. .....and finally! (part 1) As mentioned at the top of the page, this eNewsletter has been 'split' into two parts so that it will be
easier both for me to send the message as well as for you to receive same (especially as I realise
that not everyone has a broadband connection).
Please therefore watch out for part 2 (which hopefully will be received after you receive part 1?!) and
I hope that you'll find both parts to be of great interest
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The following topics have been continued from the Powditch eNewsletter No. 25
(for August 2005)
and therefore are numbered to follow on from those in 'Part 1 of 2'
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| 9. Powditch Gathering 2006 Having highlighted in last month's eNewsletter that "there might be another Powditch Family
Gathering next year", and that you should "watch out therefore, for another Powditch email which
should be with you very soon", I must really apologise for not having sent you such an email about
the Gathering!.
What I can say at this moment is, yes, there is going to be another PFG (14 -17 September 2006), I
will still be sending a separate email to you on the subject, but that due to my waiting for replies to
letters etc (to various persons/places) I'll email you as soon as I have something more positive.
What I would be grateful for at the moment, is for you to advise (tentively for the moment) whether
you would like to, or whether you will be able to come to the event.
Looking forward therefore, to hearing from you.
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| 10. Website update Since my last eNewsletter (No.23), changes to the website, have included;-
Indexes to the G.R.O. Births, Marriages and Deaths (for England and Wales) for the period post-1837, have now all been updated, and cover all years 1837 to 1950. (q.v. www.powditch.plus.com/GROindexes/index.htm 3 new sections  www.powditch.plus.com/Exhibitions/index.htm This new section has been included not only to highlight any Powditch-orientated Exhibitions, but also to provide details of events which might be of non-Powditch interest (e.g. "Beside the Seaside: the British Impressionists, Lady Lever Art Gallery (Liverpool, UK) and
'Their Past Your Future' which is a small travelling exhibition that brings that reality home and keeps alive some very special and unique memories. Images, objects, etc, relating to WW2.
www.powditch.plus.com/powditch_family_gathering_2006_questionnaire.htm which highlights the Powditch Family Gathering dates and aims for 14 -17 September 2006, and includes a feedback form. www.powditch.plus.com/Connections/kinship_chart.htm It's always difficult to decide whether a relation might be a cousin, second cousin thrice removed, or such like. I have therefore introduced this chart in the hope that it might be easier for you to work out your 'degree of kinship' (hope it helps!).Latest News (www.powditch.plus.com/News/latest_news.htm) has been updated, although I do still have quite a bit more to add as soon as I'm able to. Military Service. Please refer to item '11' below (Powditch's in the 'Theatre of War') for full details. |
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| 11. Powditch's in the 'Theatre of War' For a very long time, a section on the Powditch website has been devoted to those family members
who fought in the two World Wars, as well as those who had been in other Wars both before and after
the former.
During the past few months in the UK and I am sure, elsewhere in the world, there have been
'commemorations' relating to the end of WWII (in 1945), and consequently there has been a lot of
interest in discovering ('before it's too late') all about those who fought and where, who were
imprisoned, were injured (and worse) what medals were awarded and for what, and much more
besides.
To this end I have been updating (where I know such details) the relative webpages for WW2 (and
whilst I'm about it, a few for WW1), but I must admit to not knowing about all of those Powditchs who
were involved in WW2, nor all about what they did, where they were posted, their 'position'
(Rank-wise), nor of more besides.
In order to highlight what I do already know, please do have a look (on the website), at
to paste a copy of that page into the body of this email, but unfortunately the size of the image made
everything slow down (and I think that the size of the whole message would have been well over the
quota allowed by your ISP's server!)
Hopefully (on that page) you'll be able to see the details I already know about those Powditchs who
were involved in WW2 (as well as any previous- or post- war), but if you are able to provide any
other details about those mentioned, or provide details of any other Powditch family member(s) who
fought in WW2, you'll help me to be able to 'set the record straight' for history - from both a Powditch
and general, perspective. Incidentally, if you have yet to look at the relative webpages for WW2,
WW1, or for other wars, they can all be viewed/accessed from
I trust that you found the above to be of interest, and that you might be able to either fill in some of the
'blanks' or to provide information re family members who have not (to date) been included (either for
WWII or WWI or for any other 'war')
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| 12. 'Lost' family members. In my last 2 eNewsletters I wrote about Geoffrey Peter Powditch, who had been born in Wells-next-
the-Sea, Norfolk, and who - about the year 1959 - emigrated to Australia, and was last heard of in
1965, when he was working in the area of Perth, Western Australia, and I asked whether anyone
knew of his whereabouts.
To date, I haven't heard any news on this front, but I do live in hope!
On the same topic, 2 other 'lost' Powditch descendants with whom I and others lost all contact a very
long time ago, are Joyce Turner (of the Sydney, NSW area) and her daughter, Mrs Norquay (who
used to live in the Brisbane, QLD, area). Both are descendants of Garrett Jarvis Powditch who
'jumped ship' in Australia, and who later settled down and raised a family there.
If anyone knows Joyce's - and her daughter's - current whereabouts, I'd be extremely happy to
receive the information, especially as I have further details re Garrett and his forbears.
Thank you.
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| 13. Feedback re 'SYSTRAN' Similar to the last item, did you have a chance (or need) to try out the SYSTRAN
(www.systrasoft.com/index.html) website, which translates the first 150 words of a non-English
email from whichever to whatever language they support (the same can be done if you want to
translate an English message into a non-English language), through their Language Translation
Technology.
As I wrote last month,
"I don't have any connection with this website other than I recently discovered it and have
used their facilities on a couple of occasions, and as it helped me, I thought that it might be
a useful tool for you should you ever need translation facilities".
Has anyone who speaks more than one language, tried out the site yet? And if so, have you
evaluated how efficient the translation is for you, both from another language to English, and for
English to another language? I'd really like to hear from you re the efficiency of SYSTRAN's
translations.
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| 14. .....and finally! (part 2) Many apologies (once again) for this eNewsletter having been split into two parts, but I hope that the
'sum of the total' will not disappoint! Hopefully the upset for this month won't be repeated in future
issues, but having two images on one page seemed to slow everything down this end, so I just
wanted to ensure that you wouldn't have any problems in your receipt of same.
If - in the meantime - I owe you an email reply, or if I haven't telephoned you for a long while, I hope to
do so in the near future, and then we can have a good old 'chin-wag' ! In the meantime, I do hope that
you and your family are all keeping well, and I look forward to hearing from you sometime, especially
if you have any news (either for the website or for the Powditch Archive).
John
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